Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Conference Debrief- Lecture Sessions

Here's my review of the meetings I attended.    More general highlights and some pics coming soon.

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Friday night was the Cake Reception. I missed most of it. There was a few carbalicious crumbs left by the time I got there. I went around the room looking for familiar faces but only found a couple.

The Saturday sessions started with a breakfast and presentation by Dr. Mignot.

I wish I could have taken pictures of the things people were eating. It was both spectacular and heartbreaking, watching the vast amounts of sugar coated gluten being devoured. (I also wish I could have captured the sneers at my plate of bacon.)

The Very First Announcement:
"The first order of business is to thank Jazz Pharmaceuticals for their generous financial support. They make this conference possible."

The Introduction:
"Here is the guy we are counting on to help us.“

Hoots and hollers from the audience.


New Developments in Narcolepsy Research Genetics and Autoimmunity- Dr. Mignot

This was basically the same information he gave when I saw him four years ago. He skipped a couple slides and added on a few new things, but it wasn't strictly about new developments. He went over the history of finding orexin and showed the video of the dogs and how they now know that narcolepsy is not a specific orexin or orexin receptor mutation in humans.  That it is instead correlated with DQB1-0602 in the HLA portion of the genome which codes for immune proteins.

About this time the audience started falling asleep on the great man. They clearly dropped off in direct proportion to the amount of pastry on their plates.

The new information he offered fell into two categories.
First that maybe narcolepsy is a progressive disease. Not a specific one time cell loss.
- He noted there are about 10 different HLA genes associated with narcolepsy, not just DQB1-0602.
- Some people have partial orexin cell loss.
- Some people really do have narcolepsy without cataplexy.
- And of orexin deficient patients w/o C: 50% will develop cataplexy within 30 years.

He actually even suggested that Narcolepsy may be similar to Celiac Disease. Progressive cell damage with varying amounts of pathology and symptomology in each individual. My left eye started twitching and I thought my head was going to explode...

The new data on the Flu vaccine and Narcolepsy.
- He went over the increased incidence of narcolepsy after receiving the H1N1 vaccine. How is it associated with a specific co-factor used to increase the immune response. And that somehow this overactive immune response seems to have triggered the onset of cataplexy in children.
- He also gave the results of his own department's study that the same thing happened in China from H1N1 infection rather than the vaccine.
- He now believes that the flu virus is possibly the trigger for Narcolepsy. He is wrong, but I'll discuss that in another post. (here)

He then went on to the topic of Orexin related drugs. That there are two types- things that mimic orexin in the body (agonists) and things which block orexin receptors (antagonists).
- Drug companies have rushed to make an antagonist because insomnia is much bigger market than narcolepsy.
- His interest is in creating an orexin agonist. A drug to replace our missing orexin.

“I will make it happen."

Big applause and hoots. That woke people up.

I won't even get into the selective science right now, I just want to say that after all these years one would think he would put more effort into his slides. Copying technical diagrams straight from journal articles for cognitively impaired people is lazy and anti-informative.


Follow up QnA session. A separate meeting in another room.

This is where he tried very hard not to say the orexin drug is the ONLY thing he's interested in.
  • "There may be there is dysregulation of blood sugar control but we haven’t looked into it.
  • We haven’t done any systemic studies”
  • "Transplanting living orexin cells into the body might be like giving you cancer."
  • “There is only a remote possibility (5%) of inactivity vs. orexin cell loss."
  • "Nobody knows what to do with NwoC narcoleptics, including myself."
He got a standing ovation for this.
 

Dietary and Environmental Strategies for Managing Narcolepsy Symptoms     Dr. Iris Bell

This was my favorite lecture. Dr. Bell is an expert on chemical sensitivities and had a lot to say about food intolerance.
She noted the many metabolic symptoms of narcolepsy, and compared them to her patients with food allergies. One of the most fascinating and important things she had to say was that animals tend to crave the foods they are sensitive to. So if you are sensitive to nuts, the reaction causes a deficiency which makes you want more nuts. Sugar is especially effective in this regard. And she elaborated quite a bit on how sugar promotes addiction to amphetamines. 
Minus points for being a video conference and my disappointment at not being able to speak personally with this brilliant woman. I may go to Arizona just to do so.


Intro to Integrative Medicine      Rubin Naiman Phd

This guy put up an "Anti-inflammatory" food pyramid and I had to leave the room.   Glad I did.  Don't know whether I would have screamed or cried. Apparently the rest of the lecture was about yoga and chakras and inner healing or something. Something that makes a lot of sense to cognitively impaired people on powerful drugs.


Body Weight regulation in Narcolepsy, Clinical implications    Dr. Devandjan Sikder

This was a great lecture. Dr. Dev has shown that orexin deficient mice produce abberrent brown fat.
Brown fat is sort of the opposite of white fat, the stuff we hate. Brown fat actually burns energy and increases an animal's basal metabolism. A lot. He has shown that orexin deficient mice produce brown fat in which the mitochondria do not mature, so it atrophies and dies. This is correlated with a disproportionate weight gain when they are put on a high calorie diet. He had several permutations of the experiment also showing that when given Orexin, the animals gained brown fat and lost weight.

Although I disagree with him regarding the underlying mechanism of this pathology, I especially appreciate that he explained to the audience that their metabolism really is messed up and that there is a reason they seem to gain weight uncontrollably and can't lose it. He showed clear evidence that orexin deficient animals actually eat less and weigh more.
He did a good job navigating the fine line between technical information and a cognitively diverse audience.
Special bonus points for good graphics and a sense of humor.


Generation of Hypocretin Neurons from Human Skin Cells - Dr. Florian Merkle

This was another great presentation. Dr. Merkle is figuring out how to make orexin cells from human skin tissue. This is important because it's been hard to study them. As he said- live narcoleptics either don't have any or won't donate them for some reason.... Ha. Anyhow, he showed us his evidence that he has produced functional orexin neurons in a petri dish, and it looks good.
The obvious implications of this ability are huge.  Creation of both normal and narcoleptic orexin neurons to test and compare. Possible orexin production and harvesting. Possibly orexin tissue transplantation (He clearly countered Dr. Mignot's assertion that live cells would grow and create cancer. Neurons don't divide.) And of course the audience picked all that up right away. Unfortunately this was a preliminary presentation and it will all have to be validated and perfected and he cautioned everyone that it will probably be a decade before that stuff becomes possible.
Nonetheless, pretty effin cool, dude. Thanks.
Bonus points for clarity and infectious optimism.
You totally deserve the Researcher of the Year award. Congratulations.


Narcolepsy and Depression    Dr. Douglas Moul

I kind of feel bad for this presenter.  Although a "Sleep Psychiatrist"-  he's a specialist in insomnia, and  seemed rather out of his comfort zone in a room full of narcoleptics after lunch.   He basically recited the known data, and told us a couple anecdotes about a few patients. He then gave us his opinion that yes, depression in narcolepsy really is more than just feeling bad about the disability.
His audience already knew that.


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As you can see- I only attended scientific sessions. There were a lot of other meetings I didn't go to. Mostly because they were advice for actively sick people. Presentations on the drugs and symptoms and "living well with narcolepsy"- everything they wouldn't need to know if they had the right information. There was a lot of spiritual stuff too- dreams and art and poetry and yoga. 'Coping strategies' that make me want to scream. But I must say, the science was better this year.

One of the last sessions was about how to talk to your doctor.
Someday I'd like to see the presentation about how not to need a doctor...

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All in all, I am more convinced than ever that Dr. Mignot was right about one thing-
“We are at a moment when things are going to change.”
  
Damn straight we are.